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Voici les r\u00e9ponses du maire.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<!--more-->\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-accent-color has-text-color\"><strong><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Question de Plaisance Citoyenne<\/span> :<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-accent-color has-text-color\"><strong>Nous avons appris que la commune avait formul\u00e9 un nouveau recours en appel sur la d\u00e9cision d\u2019annulation du troisi\u00e8me permis de construire qu\u2019elle avait d\u00e9livr\u00e9 au promoteur Unibail-Rodamco-Westfield pour Val Tolosa.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"has-accent-color has-text-color wp-block-list\"><li><strong>Est-ce exact&nbsp;?<\/strong><\/li><li><strong>A-t-elle \u00e9galement formul\u00e9 un recours devant la Cour administrative d\u2019appel de Bordeaux, comme semble l\u2019indiquer la d\u00e9cision 21\/16 pr\u00e9sent\u00e9e lors du conseil municipal du 7 avril&nbsp;?<\/strong><\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>Voici l&rsquo;enregistrement :<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-audio\"><audio controls src=\"https:\/\/www.plaisance-citoyenne.fr\/site\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/q1.mp3\"><\/audio><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><strong><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">R\u00e9ponse&nbsp;de M. le maire<\/span>&nbsp;:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Vous vous interrogez deux fois sur le m\u00eame sujet. Il y a eu un appel sur la d\u00e9cision d\u2019annulation et cet appel correspond \u00e0 la d\u00e9cision 21\/16. L\u2019appel aupr\u00e8s de la cour administrative de Bordeaux concerne le permis de construire de Val Tolosa. Il y a effectivement une d\u00e9cision municipale prise en ce sens. La ville a donc fait appel de la d\u00e9cision du tribunal administratif de Toulouse. Cet appel est motiv\u00e9 par le fait que l\u2019un des moyens du jugement, qu\u2019a rendu le tribunal, s\u2019appuie sur la mise en cause du plan local d\u2019urbanisme de 2005. Il nous semble que l\u2019interpr\u00e9tation qu\u2019en a fait le tribunal administratif et qui l\u2019am\u00e8ne \u00e0 relever l\u2019exception d\u2019ill\u00e9galit\u00e9 du plan local d\u2019urbanisme, pour annuler le permis de construire, est erron\u00e9.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>En outre, au-del\u00e0 de sa justification juridique, que nous contestons, cette d\u00e9cision a aussi des cons\u00e9quences plus importantes que l\u2019annulation du permis de construire, puisqu\u2019elle r\u00e9institue le zonage et le r\u00e8glement de l\u2019ancien plan local d\u2019urbanisme 2003 sur les parcelles de l\u2019emprise du permis de construire. Ce qui nous semble abusif. C\u2019est pour ce motif principal, que la commune a saisi la cour administrative d\u2019appel.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-accent-color has-text-color\"><strong><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Question de Plaisance Citoyenne<\/span> :<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-accent-color has-text-color\"><strong>Nous restons dans l\u2019attente de la r\u00e9ponse sur le co\u00fbt total des proc\u00e9dures en justice engag\u00e9es dans ce dossier. Question pos\u00e9e lors du conseil municipal du 26 janvier dernier<\/strong>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">R\u00e9ponse de M. le maire<\/span><\/strong>&nbsp;: <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Pour r\u00e9pondre \u00e0 votre deuxi\u00e8me question, sur le co\u00fbt total des proc\u00e9dures, on a fait des recherches&nbsp;: le co\u00fbt des proc\u00e9dures en justice, engag\u00e9es depuis 2007, concernant ce sujet, est de <strong>58&nbsp;867 \u20ac<\/strong>, soit un peu plus de 4&nbsp;000 \u20ac par an.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-accent-color has-text-color\"><strong><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Florence Queval<\/span>&nbsp;: je ferais juste remarquer que, du coup, la commune poursuit ses d\u00e9penses sur ce dossier.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-accent-color has-text-color\"><strong><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Note de Plaisance Citoyenne<\/span> : les proc\u00e9dures de l&rsquo;association <em>Non \u00e0 Val Tolosa<\/em> contre la mairie ayant d\u00e9but\u00e9 en 2013, on est aujourd&rsquo;hui \u00e0 7 358 \u20ac de frais de justice (avocat) par an, auxquels s&rsquo;ajoutent tr\u00e8s certainement des p\u00e9nalit\u00e9s \u00e0 l&rsquo;encontre de la commune.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Notre premi\u00e8re question diverse portait sur les proc\u00e9dures judiciaires engag\u00e9es par la commune, aux c\u00f4t\u00e9s du promoteur Unibail, dans le dossier Val Tolosa. 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